tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12001852.post113476898708254709..comments2023-09-30T08:13:42.027-04:00Comments on Measuring Days: more on ChristmasJaredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14065742546421747652noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12001852.post-1135092267496974682005-12-20T10:24:00.000-05:002005-12-20T10:24:00.000-05:00I am settled on this now. Thanks for all the input...I am settled on this now. Thanks for all the input.Aliciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973998210740889051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12001852.post-1134957791216121212005-12-18T21:03:00.000-05:002005-12-18T21:03:00.000-05:00A great post and a great point. My opinions are on...A great post and a great point. My opinions are on my blog so I won't waste time retyping them. lol But a small point, The Roman Catholic church, officially, began Christmas around the 300s, I believe, and during this time they were the true church. In that, they were spiritually focused on Christ as a whole and weren't as many Rpers think of them today.David Pulliamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06956491409719443335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12001852.post-1134841160544307062005-12-17T12:39:00.000-05:002005-12-17T12:39:00.000-05:00Traditions can and often are wonderful things, as ...Traditions can and often are wonderful things, as long as they don't superscede what God's commanded us or what He's deemed as more important. Alas, (which has probably been mentioned) we humans have a long-standing tradition of graduating traditions to be massive sacred cows, not to be altered or defamed or ignored in any way. Exhibit A: the Roman Catholic church.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I love Christmas greatly -- as a celebration of Jesus and as a celebration of family and life. I recently did a sermon on a minor revelation I had over why people worldwide adore Christmas so much. I strongly feel it's because it touches something deep within us -- a desire to see heaven, to experience an unfallen world, to reconnect with God. After all, Christmas embodies many emotions and values that are among the best God has blessed us with in this world and the next: family, love, charity, sacrifice, happiness, love for strangers, miracles and, yes, worship. To the unsaved, Christmas can be a beacon to them showing them that all of life doesn't have to be full of the worst, most disgusting things... but instead, it can pull them toward Christ, desiring to experience all of those wonderful things Christmas has to offer, only eternally and far more powerfully. My two cents.<BR/><BR/>- JustinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12001852.post-1134818465224037522005-12-17T06:21:00.000-05:002005-12-17T06:21:00.000-05:00Alicia, I don't think you need to back away from s...Alicia, I don't think you need to back away from saying that Christmas is a celebration of Christ's birth. That's what's so great about many of our traditions: how clearly they celebrate Christ. The tree of life in the middle of winter (garden of Eden & heaven!), mistletoe as a sign of God's provision and grace (see www.kingsmeadow.com/blogger.html and scroll down a little while), Santa Claus reminding us of the wonderful Saint Nicolas' tradition of pastoral help and gifts, reflecting the wonderful excessive grace of God in unnecessary and even extravagant gifts...<BR/><BR/>I don't think you need to retreat into making this merely a time with your family; it can be a wonderful, special celebration of Christ's birth, especially since so many traditions make sense only in that vain.Jaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14065742546421747652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12001852.post-1134792960155901032005-12-16T23:16:00.000-05:002005-12-16T23:16:00.000-05:00P.S. Zach & I are also talking about this. I think...P.S. Zach & I are also talking about this. I think I made him confused :-), but we didn't have too long to talk.Aliciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973998210740889051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12001852.post-1134772996836299842005-12-16T17:43:00.000-05:002005-12-16T17:43:00.000-05:00Thanks for posting that. It was well said. What ...Thanks for posting that. It was well said. <BR/><BR/>What I go back and forth on is celebrating Christmas as a memorable & enjoyable family holiday or as a Christian holiday. I feel that I would be hypocritical inwardly if I claimed to celebrate Christ's birth that day but spent the day giving and opening presents, eating, and enjoying family and gifts as opposed to spending the day celebrating Him. This is for Christmas in general and not just this year (with the assumption that we have the blessing of Sabbath worship this year on Christmas).<BR/><BR/>I almost feel "safer" celebrating it as a family holiday with the things I mentioned above without pretending to celebrate Christ and not actually doing that. However, I know I can do things to His glory and out of thankfulness to Him and His presence in my life. I guess I question if I am really celebrating His birth by these traditions. How does one do that? If I am not, I can't claim to celebrate His birth. On the other hand, if I am not, I can change my focus to one that is on Him....and how do I fit these enjoyable traditions in w/o saying one thing and actually doing another? I'm not sure if that makes sense. I don't question the celebration of Christmas, but the motive to the celebration, I guess, and if an adjustment in attitude is recommended if the attitude is that of celebrating the fellowship of family on Christmas.<BR/><BR/>That may not make any sense, if so, my apologies. I hope I'm not seen as some heretic.Aliciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973998210740889051noreply@blogger.com